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DIY TacOps Bolt Knob Conversion
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Standard Issue



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=813132

That would do

Most silver solder is the same just have to make sure of its silver content like i stated months ago. also 13 bucks isnt to bad. i belive I bought mine from a local hardware shop and ran about 20ish.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the reply, i am still a little confused. in an previous post you said 45% silver content was required, and the midway one only has 4%. At my local hardware store i could not find anything over 5%. Was it a typo in the previous post?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahh in deed it was a typo sorry for that. A high rating of silver stands around 5.5 Ag before it starts to get a little on the pricey end and also in which really is over kill as far as tensile strength gose, as stated before honestly how much force is one going to apply to the bolt knob? Id be more afraid of bending the steel shaft on the bolt before worring about the knob sheering free... thats just me but I know those who use these units on the feild have every right to be so uptight about it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seems easy enough to do
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With your higher silver content and hence higher temps to actually weld, I wouldn't be as much concerned about sag in the handle as much as the heat destroying the tempered finish in the bolt handle. Although it may seem stupid, after the bolt handle is heated again it becomes hard and therefore becomes brittle. It may not ever happen to anyone but with a brittle bolt handle it really does not take much to snap one off. I suppose the best thing to do is just not quench the handle to cool it down and let it cool down at room temperature. Happy modifying!!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aus, I wrapped the handel with a wet rag when heating the tip your soldering to, Keeps the heat to a minimum and only in one spot where you need it. which is on the tool steel really, not so much the bolt but it dose need to be hot enough to allow it to flow. You should be no where near hot enough to make the handle red hot or sag it, but i put that as a warning becasue well not all people understand that... sadly. =D
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've repaired a few of these tac-ops bolt knob kits that people installed.
With the method of install I use, I can still put any knob on even after the handle has been cut and drilled into.
So, if anyone has any trouble installing theirs, or if they want it to look better...

www.azprecisiongunsmithing.com

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will this knob fit every bolt handle, I want to put it on one of the savage package rifles in .223.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for sharing this!

I have a few questions:
I have never dealt with silver solder, I heard about this for many years pertaining to permanently installing flash hiders, but never high use components such as bolts. How strong is the bond? I dont have a tig but a MIG, and though I'm an experience welder I just dont feel that I would be able to produce a seamless and consistent bead with a mig welder.

Just a thought. What about useing a tap and die, and tapping and threading the innie and outie?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver Solder is pretty strong, its more of a light braze than a wield. Mike's knob is designed so that the stud takes all the stress the solder is just there holding it in place so welding it would be way overkill IMO.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen more of these fail from being done wrong... or the customer realized it looks cheaply done.

Drilling your handle with a drill bit, and soldering that stud into it, is about the weakest way to go about this if done at all wrong. And even done right, its inferior to most every other method of install.

Spend alittle more money and have it done correctly, professionaly, and quickly.

Turn around times for many smiths doing this is less than a week. We're just a couple days.

$75 TOTAL for it done professionaly, or half that for it done half as good.


and I'm not knockin the DIY kits for people to try at home, but your handle coming off in the field is the last thing you want. Seen these fail many times.
Just trying to save people the headache.
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VERY NICE THAT DOES TAKE BIG BALLS I REMEMBER MY FIRST DURACOAT JOB I DID NOT KNOW A HUMAN COULD SWEAT THAT MUCH AWSOME WORK I THINK MINE ARE GROWING AS I TYPE I WILL GIVE IT A TRY THANKS FOR THE POST
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: help Reply with quote

I know this is an old topic but I'm going to give it a try any advice when you say right angel what do you mean a file. thanks
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