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Ravenblack
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 Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: hey |
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| Quote: | | How do you like the aluminum stock. |
Far superior to the wooden stock: I love wooden stocks, but for accuracy and feed back, the 2213 is streets ahead.
If you are in the correct position and get everything right (I mean everything), you can hear a faint high pitch rrrriiinnngggg reverberate through your ear. A bit like the perfect golf shot - or maybe baseball hit. When the stock rings out, I don't even scope because I know the shot has gone dead centre.
Due to the rigidity of the stock, any slight error is magnified compared to the wooden stocks natural damping effect.
So: Alumini(u)m stock is better for feedback, but not as forgiving.
| Quote: | | with the extension i use a 4.0 |
I use a 4.2 with no tube! I used to use 3.2, but was told to go as big as you can, because the natural self centering tendency of the eye works better that way. It was odd to start with, but it is actually better.
The way I select, and tell people to select (or adjust) fore sights is to open it up as far as it will go but without letting anything else come into view.
For a ten spot I would aim at the X and open up the foresight so the other diagrams are only just out of view.
O..O..O..O
..X......O..
O..O..O..O
Lessons.....Jeeez guys....what can we tell you that you can't tell us?
I know the .22 TR is a fine way to learn (and as for some of us, a sport in itself) - but it really sets you up for other things.
Good example of what you can do with good training:
I had never shot scope or anything bigger than a .22 before, and I had only once shot outdoors (you can't get me inside now!!!).
I visited an NRA open day. The first "big" gun I picked up was an AI in 7.62 with S&B glass.
The targets were 200yds McMillan sniper targets (pop up windows - 3 seconds, random window).
Luckily it was a calm day as I hadn't much windage experience back then.
The instructor said do this and this.....so I did....and shot a perfect set.
The instructor was impressed that I had come from 25yd .22 and managed this, but I just told him "I only did what you instructed me to do - the basics from the .22 taught me everything else."
And yeah - it sounds like I should have said it with a John Wayne swagger, but I wasn't bragging - I was just being honest.
SEE!!!! The things I pick up here count! Training and learning isn't just with the gun.....it's all here at SC too.
It's just training, training, training!
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laxratnd
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: hey |
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Raven,
Yeah i knew that the aluminum stocks are more rigid. Mr brother used one also. Ill have to try and open my apperture up all the way and see how it is. I open it up all the way for offhand. i just had a match this weekend and shot a 555 in smallbore 3p and 561 in air rifle. Not to bad. I messed up on my prone in smallbore lol. Whats your cleaning method for your smallbore. |
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Ravenblack
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Cleaning method.
Once a batch of 1000.
Rod with expandable buds. straight through from the bolt end fwds. Unscrew the bud to withdraw the rod each time.
Several passes with a bronze impregnated felt expansion pad until the pad is more black then white. Do with a second brass pad if I feel it needs it.
Then straight felt 2 to 3 times - replace felt - 2 to 3 times with new felt....carry on until no much shows on the felt.
One small drop of gun oil on a new pad then gets passed up the barrel. Then a dry pad again.
10 rounds down her and I'm happy to go again.
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laxratnd
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: hey |
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Whats expandable buds.
Yeah i buy in cases or 5000 so i dont clean after every batch but i do put a few patches through after a few hundred rounds and then i give it a cleaning around 1000 rounds. I am not a big fan of having a super clean barrel and shooting it at a match. I like to have some rounds down the tube before a match. |
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Ravenblack
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: hey |
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| laxratnd wrote: | Whats expandable buds.
Yeah i buy in cases or 5000 so i dont clean after every batch but i do put a few patches through after a few hundred rounds and then i give it a cleaning around 1000 rounds. I am not a big fan of having a super clean barrel and shooting it at a match. I like to have some rounds down the tube before a match. |
The felt buds are about 3/8" long and .20" dia. They have a small hole up the middle.
My rod has a small thread on the end that passes through the bud. When you put a bud over the thread, and then tighten the small nut that holds the bud on, the bud id squashed and expands.
I generally do my first push through with quite a loose bud - just to get a feel of the barrel.
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laxratnd
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject: hey |
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| Those sounds pretty interesting. Ill have to look into them. You like how they work. |
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laxratnd
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject: hey |
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what are these. havent herd about them either.
Several passes with a bronze impregnated felt expansion pad until the pad is more black then white. Do with a second brass pad if I feel it needs it.
Also. do you mean the felt peices and the felt adapter on the link you sent me.
thanks.
i use a jag and patches and a nylon bore brush for my cleaning. oh yes an i always use a bore guide. Its a must. |
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Ravenblack
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Yeah - The felt pads, rod ends etc.....about half way down. A small box of pads followed by 2 baggies and the rod ends.
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| hey. sounds like you have a nice cleaning setup. I may have to try this. seems pretty nice. Does it beat the patch method do you think. |
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Ravenblack
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| laxratnd wrote: | | hey. sounds like you have a nice cleaning setup. I may have to try this. seems pretty nice. Does it beat the patch method do you think. |
Sure does. The pads always sit exactly the same way, they don't fall off and they make the process dead simple. Also, with a 4b2 I always worry it'll fall off and I'll end up shoving the jag up the barrel (yeah....if done correctly that won't happen - but with the felt there is no way it can go wrong!).
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: hey |
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| Yeah i got yeah. I found a place that i buy from and they have them all. So maybe ill place an order and try them. because the patches are tuff to get through sometimes. My guess is due to the tight tolereance of the bore and maybe a little thick patch. I have to cut them down a little to get them to run through nicely. |
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laxratnd
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject: hey |
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Hey Raven.
What ammo you using over there. |
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Ravenblack
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: hey |
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| laxratnd wrote: | Hey Raven.
What ammo you using over there. |
Eley Tenex and Eley Match.
Best stuff for an Annie by far (Even Anschutz themselves say that). I trust the stuff - never had any issues in 4000 rounds (well...apart from the one I jammed up....)
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject: hey |
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Yeah its pretty good stuff. Really Expensive but it does work.
I use Sk Standard right now. The stuff is great and its works plenty good enough for 50 feet indoors. I use higher quality ammo for outdoors. Cant afford to shoot eley tenex all the time at 135 dollars for 500rds. I like the sk, its very clean and shots are always consistent. I have never had a problem with it and ive shot over 5,000 rounds of it. |
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