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shawnc992001 · Joined: 27 Jan 2009 Posts: 356 Location: Arnett WV

Freakin' WOW!

hubel458 · Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Posts: 144 Location: Brinton, MI

Guys have asked about a 10ga FH, and it is just
getting stuff to do cases with reasonable time and cost.
So a breakthrough with a 10ga FH, is putting 10 gauge
basecups from plastic cases onto 50cal Russian brass to
make a 4.05" long 10ga. I expand case using my shellholder
on original rim, put in bushing for shotgun primer, which
fires off RE17, the turn case and rim a little, and slip
on basecup with epoxy inside. Then take a 200 dollar heavy
barrel NEF 10ga, and deepen chamber like mine is.
Here is picture with one beside a 12ga FH. The 12ga FH holds
max load of about 330 gr ball powder below a slug,
and the 10ga FH holds 420gr. I'm getting things set
to get a bunch of cases to do this. Progress.
Now anyone wanting any of my cases for their collection
I have a package of them all. Contact me.. ...Ed

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shawnc992001 · Joined: 27 Jan 2009 Posts: 356 Location: Arnett WV

Holy crap! A 10ga!!! Are you working on an 8ga next?

hubel458 · Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Posts: 144 Location: Brinton, MI

I made one 8ga long brass case and we have a few
8ga guns setup by using 8gs plastic industrial
cases swaged down. We rebored NEF 10ga to 8ga.
The pictures and info is earlier in the thread.Ed
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shawnc992001 · Joined: 27 Jan 2009 Posts: 356 Location: Arnett WV

Ed, just a guess, but the Caldwell Lead Sled is your best friend?

hubel458 · Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Posts: 144 Location: Brinton, MI

Also I found a company that would rebore 10ga
NEF heavy barreled guns to 8ga, if they can
get 5-6 guys lined up to do it, so that they can
make tooling and charge less than
300 bucks to do it. Delta Reboring.
Let me know and we'll get arrangements made
if enough are interested.I have two now.ED
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hubel458 · Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Posts: 144 Location: Brinton, MI

The long brass 10GA FH case shown above has a Lyman
slug in a thickwall 10ga steel shotcup that BPI sells.
That's a 12ga 525gr Lyman.Makes nice lighter slug for 10ga.
The slug has bottom chamfered to set in cup tight
and a little epoxy makes it one piece that makes it a discarding
sabot style like a SPW. That makes it front heavy so that it
is as accurate as Brenekke KOs in smoothbore. I'm
also working with a guys to cast long hollowbase 10ga slugs
like the ones Federal loads. We are figuring out molds now,
will probably make slugs about 850gr. Here is picture of
my 10GA FH NEF with long brass case started in the chamber.
Chamber is set for that 4.050" brass case and will shoot 3.5"
plastic cases also. I am going to put on a thumbhole Survivor
stock like I have on NEF 8ga we did.Ed

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hubel458 · Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Posts: 144 Location: Brinton, MI

We talk about liking the use of heavier slug barrels
in using our slow powder giving 1/3 faster loads
in plastic cases, and handling recoil better. It is
stiffer being heavy for an aid to accuracy.
Guy out west has this heavy muzzled, Hastings, rifled
barrel, for his REM 870. In first pic is a comparison to the
original 870 barrel. It shows a muzzle as heavy as on
a NEF Ultra Slug GUN. 2nd picture is the gun itself.
That makes a neat slug gun..Ed

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hubel458 · Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Posts: 144 Location: Brinton, MI

The heavy rifled barrel in previous post was made by
Hastings for the Remington 870. It is 26" long and a
muzzle diameter of over an inch. Hastings is gone now,
but we'd like to find some of these barrels. The Hastings
number of the barrel is 560H90.

In the meantime Remington has come out with their
SPS Super Magnum Slug Gun with 25.5" rifled barrel and
a 1" diameter muzzle, with more solid barrel, and extra
pins in mounting barrel, so a scope can be put on action. Ed

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shawnc992001 · Joined: 27 Jan 2009 Posts: 356 Location: Arnett WV

Is that the 3" or 3.5" 870?

hubel458 · Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Posts: 144 Location: Brinton, MI

That is 3", as REM figures the slugs loaded by factories so
far are all 3". I wish they'd sell barrel seperate, then we
could put in a 3.5" reciever and lengthen chamber.
Loading 3.5" is much easier to get hairy speeds.
One guy is planning on switching barrels from one
to the other. He measured and it will work.And just
drill long action to match the stabilizing pin hole.Ed.
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hubel458 · Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Posts: 144 Location: Brinton, MI

I am now putting a 3.5" 20ga on the FBW action.
We are having RMC make 3.5" brass 20ga cases. I also
bought a huge box of 3.5" plastic case Hastings
hot rod sabot slugs at their out of business auction.
Picture is of FBW with brass case in the feed trough.
Any wanting to do 20 ga brass cases, at same time,
contact RMC, they'd like to make a big batch this spring..
I also got few of the cases to make the 10ga FH
brass 4.050" long case. Anyone wanting one. I'll part
with them, but I'll only will have a few. The brass is hard
to find and costly.. Ed

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BuckHammer · Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 13

Hi Ed, big fan of your work. I was wondering how much it cost for 20 gauge 3" or 3.5" brass. Also I have a 12gauge turkey pardner with a 20 gauge rifled bull barrel. I have read that the SB1 frames are not as strong as the SB2 ( a very saddening note after the purchase. ) Would you happen to know what kind of pressure the SB1 frames can take compared to SB2? Would I be an idiot to try and push a 1.5 oz sabot slug( or there about ) to 2500 FPS? Or faster? Thanks for the input!

hubel458 · Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Posts: 144 Location: Brinton, MI

The 3.5" brass case sare about 9-10 bucks each
and they are good to 30,000 psi and a SBI frame with
that case can run close to that. getting a 1 oz sabot 20 ga
to 2500, ans 1.5 oz to 2100. That is energy like
458lott gets. Ed
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BuckHammer · Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 13

I see. Do you happen to know why it is that the SB1 frames are not as strong?