• Manufacturer: Ruger
  • Model: Ruger Precision Rifle
  • Model Number: 18008
  • Caliber: 308 Win. 6.5mm Creedmoor (Test Rifle), 6mm Creedmoor, 223 Rem
  • Barrel: Medium Contour Chrome-Moly
  • Barrel Length: 20" (308 Win, 223 Rem), 24" (6.5mm CM, 6mm CM)
  • Twist: 1:10" (308 Win), 1:8 (6.5mm CM), 1:7.7" (6mm CM), 1:7" (223 Rem)
  • Magazine: 10 Round detachable box (AICS & Magpul compatible)
  • Trigger: Externally Adjustable for Weight of Pull
  • Stock: Ruger synthetic adjustable MSR stock
  • Metal Finish: Matte Black
  • Weight: 10.7 lbs (4.86 kg)
  • Overall Length: 43.25" - 46.75" (1099mm - 1187mm)
  • List Price: $ 1599
  • Additional Notes: Various MSR parts are interchangable on the Ruger Precision Rifle

It is not always easy to explain why it happens, but occasionally a product is released and the consumer cannot get enough of it and it becomes an instant hit. The Ruger Precision Rifle is one of those products. It seems that from day one, these rifles have been a hot seller and difficult to keep on the shelf. Perhaps it has just the right blend of new features combined with good looks and good performance, or maybe the rifles really are that good? That is what we are hear to finally find out. We needed to see if all of the hype on these rifles was warranted. So with the help of a good Sniper Central friend who let us use his unfired rifle, we brought in the latest version of the 6.5 Creedmoor Ruger Precision Rifle to put through a thorough evaluation. This would help us determine if the rifle is a legitimate contender as a duty sniper rifle, or if they are just more for show than go.

When the proud new owner opens up their box and pulls out the RPR (Ruger Precision Rifle) they certainly get a modern looking and hansom rifle. With the huge popularity of the Modern Sporting Rifles (MSR), a kinder and gentler name for the AR-15/10 platform, it should not have come as any big surprise to anyone that one of the major rifle makers would make a bolt action rifle based on the looks, features and style of the MSR. That is essentially what the RPR is. Of course, there are several chassis systems, such as the MDT Tac-21, that have been around for a while that essentially did this very thing, and Remington now even offers a factory rifle that uses the MDT system. But Ruger took it further and developed a new complete system based around their bolt action rifle, and added some additional features.

The rear buttstock of the RPR is a fully adjustable setup with an uncovered skeleton style design. The recoil pad has about an inch of padding and it is attached to a buttplate that can easily be adjusted for length of pull by releasing the rear throw lever. The mechanism that holds the center rod attached to the buttplate is itself attached to what is normally the buffer tube on a true MSR, but is a faux buffer tube on the RPR. The bottom of this mechanism also holds a picatinny rail that is also attached to the buttplate and can be used to attach slings or mono-pods onto. Draped over the top of the buffer tube is a small cheekpiece that is adjustable up and down to allow the eye to be setup correctly to align with the scope. The cheekpiece also slides forward or back allowing precise placement for the appropriate eye relief for the shooter. This cheekpiece is made of a textured kydex material and has a plastic feel to it, though it seems to be sturdy enough. The entire buttstock mechanism is exposed to the elements and can get snagged up why crawling with things like branches, weeds and other hazards, but the design makes it easily adjustable. Additionally, the buttstock is easily folded up onto the left side by depressing a sing button at the rear of the receiver.

The action, or receiver area of the rifle is designed and configured to look and function very much like the AR/MSR family of rifles, though the obvious big difference is the bolt and bolt handle. The safety is located in the traditional location and is operated in the same manner using the thumb of the shooting hand while in place on the pistol grip. The safety is a 45 degree design that can be moved to the right hand side of the action and any AR style safety can be swapped out with the original as well. The rifle can only be placed on safe if the bolt is cocked. The safety itself is easy to throw into fire from the safe position, but on our test rifle, fresh out of the box, it was stiff and difficult to rotate from fire to safe while keeping the hand in place on the pistol grip. We had to release our grip and move the hand up to get enough leverage to rotate the safety. The safety itself is a two position safety that does not lock the bolt so that it may be cycled while still on safe.

As would be expected, the pistol grip is a standard AR pistol grip. It is made of hard plastic with only minor texture on it which leads to it having a slick feeling. Again, since it is a standard AR pistol grip, it can easily be replaced with any pistol grip on the market from the likes of Magpul or other popular AR/MSR accessory maker. The shape and location make it feel very natural to anyone who has fired a MSR before. The trigger finger is well placed to align properly for a good trigger pull with a short distance to the trigger itself, which is nestled into a typical MSR trigger guard.

The trigger is a blade style trigger for extra safety, which can be divisive among shooters. Some like them, some do not. Beyond the protruding blade, the trigger shoe itself is bare and smooth with a curve. Our rifle came out of the box set at a light 2 lbs, which was odd since Ruger indicates the trigger is adjustable from 2.25 lbs – 5 lbs. The trigger has no takeup, beyond the center blade, and no overtravel which leads to a nice trigger pull. If the operator wishes to adjust the weight of pull, it is easily done with a hex head Allen wrench placed up through the magazine release lever, which is why there is a hole through it. Ruger even conveniently provides the Allen wrench placed in the back shroud area of the bolt which was an interesting and clever use of the extended shroud which would normally just be wasted space.

Directly in front of the trigger guard is the magazine release lever that will release the magazine if pressed forward. The RPR comes with two ten round Magpul polymer magazines and they do drop free when empty, this being preferred for rapid reloading. Interestingly enough, the magazine cannot be removed unless the bolt is open and pulled all the way to the rear. We are trying to find the logic in this design and can only surmise that it is a safety reason and the lawyers do not want anyone removing a magazine with the bolt potentially closed on a live round. We don’t like it and can come up with several reasons why someone would want to drop a mag with the bolt closed. Additionally, the bolt cannot be closed on an empty magazine which can be used as a empty mag indicator when cycling the bolt. Or it could be to force the shooter to remove the magazine in order to close the bolt on an empty chamber, therefore attempting to force additional safety? Of course, this prevents single feeding the rifle which is an irritation in certain circumstances with sniper use.

The RPR is also design to accept both Magpul and AICS magazines which allows those with a collection of metal AICS magazines to be able to use them. The AICS mags were a bit loose and rattled a little, but they did work without issue. The bolt itself is a bit odd in that there is a long shroud, or “hat”, that extends off the back of the bolt which is there to help with bolt control as it cycles back. It is necessary since the action is a MSR frame and not a traditional built up action on a normal bolt action rifle. As the bolt is cycled to the rear that long hat extends back into the buffer tube area and supports the bolt allowing it to extend and slide directly back. It is somewhat odd looking, but accomplishes what it was designed to do. The bolt itself has three lugs which allows it to have a shorter 70 degree bolt throw combined with a full diameter bolt body that matches the diameter of those three lugs. This is the same bolt design as the Ruger American Predator Rifle, though there are some modifications made for the RPR. The extractor is the same small AR style claw with a plunger. The bolt handle is a large matte black tactical style bolt handle that is slightly angled back toward the shooter.

The bolt release is located on the left hand side of the action and as has been mentioned, in order to remove the bolt, the stock has to be folded forward at least half way. Once this is done then the bolt release can be pressed and the bolt removed from the action. Obviously the bolt needs to be fully forward in order to fold the stock, else the long bolt shroud is extended back into the buffer tube. It should be noted also that this is a MSR/AR style buffer tube so any MSR buttstock can be mounted in place of the current ruger buttstock. Mounted on top of the action is a 20 MOA canted picatinny style accessory rail. Ruger indicates that their upper receiver area is made of chrome moly steel to prevent distortion, which sounds like a logical choice for this arrangement, while the lower receiver is aluminum.

The barrel on the RPR is a medium weight cold hammer forged chrome-moly steel barrel with 5R rifling of which Ruger claims has minimum headspacing and is centralized for accuracy. Of course these are mass produced rifles so expectations should be kept in check about how tight the chambers and rifling may be, but it appears they have gone to extra measures to help with accuracy. On this test rifle chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor, the RPR has a 24″ barrel, where as the 308 and 223 versions have a 20″ barrel. Located on the muzzle is a muzzlebrake of Rugers own design that only has ports on the sides in an effort to minimize dust signature when firing. As is the overall theme with the RPR, the muzzlebrake can be removed and a different one used if desired.

The forward handguard is a smaller diameter handguard that Ruger used to aide in providing additional scope clearance which is a traditional MSR problem when mounting scopes. As would be expected, the handguard utilizes the standardized keymod design to allow easy accessory attachment and of course the barrel is free floating. The rifle also incorporates a single QD sling attach point on the buttstock, so an additional one would need to be added to the handguard to utilize the flush cup style QD setup.

Since the rifle is patterned after the “black rifle”, meaning the AR15/MSR family of rifles, it should come as no surprise that the rifle is completely finished in a matte black color. The Aluminum parts, including the lower receiver area, buttstock, and handguard are all hard anodized with a nice even matte black finish. Ruger does not mention what type of finish was used on the barrel, though it looks good and matches the rest of the rifle. Overall the rifle is very reminiscent of a MSR except for the bolt handle hanging off the right hand side, and it feels and handles like one as well. The rifle is long with its 24″ barrel and muzzlebrake, but not any longer than a traditional sniper rifle. It is a bit over 10 lbs without optics, which again, is not out of line with current sniper rifles. There are many edges and protrusions all along the rifle which may get in the way during field use, but it is nothing that should cause major concern.

For our shooting tests we decided to use a Bushnell Elite Tactical 3200 5-15x40mm scope, which with the 5″ sunshade is a fairly long scope. As is common on a MSR flattop rifle, mounting the scope can be a bit tricky to get just right as they need to be mounted high and forward for proper eye relief and alignment. The adjustability of the rear buttstock helps in this regard by being able to adjust the the length of pull and cheek height to match the scope. We used a set of extra high TSR 1″ steel rings and were able to get the scope mounted and stock adjusted for a good fit.

The number of factory match grade long range 6.5 Creedmoor loads is increasing, but that does not mean it is as plentiful as 308 and we had a bit of a struggle to find 4 different loads that were in stock that we could use for testing. We typically do not like to use more than 1 or 2 loads from the same manufacturer, but this time we did not have much of a choice. The four loads we settled on where Hornady 120gr ELD Match, Hornady 140gr ELD Match, Hornady 147gr ELD Match, and Winchester 140gr HPBT Match. That is a lot of Hornady loads, but they off the most variety which is no surprise since they were one of the developers of the original 6.5 Creedmoor cartridge. For our 100 yard accuracy tests the weather was beautiful, a clear Montana summer morning, 60 degrees (F) with light winds of 0-3 mph. If you are not familiar with our testing procedures, please take a moment to read about them here. The 100 yard test results are below

Ammo Average Group Best Group
Hornady 120gr ELD 0.500″ (0.478 MOA) 0.355″ (0.339 MOA)
Hornady 140gr ELD 0.659″ (0.629 MOA) 0.510″ (0.487 MOA)
Hornady 147gr ELD 0.858″ (0.819 MOA) 0.596″ (0.569 MOA)
Winchester 140gr HPBT 0.704″ (0.672 MOA) 0.298″ (0.285 MOA)

When you open up the box on the Ruger Precision Rifle, or visit their web page, one of the tag lines they have plastered all over is a quote by their CEO:

“1600 yards. Enough said.”

This is a bold claim and if you are going to print that, then the rifle better be able to walk the walk. When looking at the results from our accuracy tests with a factory rifle using factory ammunition, it certainly makes a solid impression. With the Hornady 120gr ELD load, it averaged exactly 0.500″ inches, slightly less than .5 MOA. This would be the level of accuracy needed to stretch the rifle out to long ranges beyond 1000 yards. This particular load was very consistent and pleasant to shoot. All four of the loads averaged well below 1 MOA and the Winchester match printed the tightest single group of the day at .285 MOA”.

But it was not all roses either. The action is quite notchy and not always smooth, especially if there is any sort of downward pressure on the bolt as you initially start your push forward after the rear stroke. Even if it is just a slight downward pressure the forward stroke becomes notchy and can even bind if there is not enough forward pressure to overcome the notch. The inability to single feed is not a show stopper, but it is a nuisance if you need a quick followup shot and your mag is empty. The empty mag also prevents the bolt from going forward until the mag is dropped or a loaded mag is inserted. We will give props to the trigger though, it isn’t bad at all and the shorter 70 degree bolt rotation is fairly nice as well.

For our 300 yard head target test we elected to use the most consistent performing load, the Hornady 120gr ELD and proceeded to setup our target. Remember, we only fire one iteration of this test, we do not fire multiple engagements and take the best one. With everything dialed in on the scope and confirmed, we setup and fired the test from the prone position and simulated a series of rapid fire head shot engagements at 300 yards. With your body properly placed behind the rifle and with the moderately effective muzzlebrake taming the lighter 120gr loads, the return from battery was very quick and the shooter was able to observe bullet impact even at the relatively short range of 300 yards. This light recoil aided in the results of the head shot test as three rounds were able to be fired, cycled, and brought back on target in only 23 seconds, even with the notchy action. The group measured a nice and tidy 1.965″, or .626 MOA to provide a very good overall score of 132.1. We consider an overall score of 100 or above to be acceptable for sniper use. The excellent accuracy combined with the very manageable recoil and quick target acquisition combined to lead to the good showing on this test.

300y Head Target Test
Time Score (23 secs)41.7
Accuracy Score (.626 moa)95.8

The accuracy maintains its consistency at mid to long range and the rifle does shoot well. As a whole the rifle performs well in terms of accuracy, though functionally there are some things we don’t care for and we have already mentioned them above. The modularity of the rifle is nice as the MSR compatibility makes the rifle easy to customize for your individual tastes and most of the changes can be done easily with common hand tools. If this is the style of rifle you or your team is looking for, it certainly should be considered. The price is on the higher side for a production rifle, but compared to other similar chassis style rifles like the Savage 110BA or Remington’s new 700 with MDT Tac-21 chassis, the price is very similar. As a whole, the rifle certainly shoots well and can indeed be a duty rifle, just be aware of its operational quirks and realize it may not be as smooth as other rifles, and then it should serve you well.

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Howa makes a good rifle and their HCR is a good comparison to the RPR. The HCR makes use of the standard Howa 1500 action and just attaches some MSR furniture to the chassis, so its not “as” like a MSR as the Ruger is.


The Howa is a very nice rifle. I shoot the Howa 24″.308 HB with Lapua Scaner at 100 meters 5 shot in 15 mm. at 300 in 30 mm. Super result. The people with the Ruger didn’t get close.


Strech it out to 600 yrds— the military isn’t going to it for nothing

Matt vinson

I shot 600 yrds qual on a 3 inch gong for 5 consecutive hits with a .308 cal rpr. I think the 6.5 is a great rifle but I honestly believe the rpr .308 is the bang for the buck.


I will never buy another Ruger , I got mine and when I checked it out at home to say very badly finished is mild , the bolt was a mess I should have spent more time in the shop looking it over but the guy fitted the scope and had packed it ready for me to collect .
I contacted ruger and the uk importer who have been no help ruger have blocked any help the importer has tried to do .the pictures I have show the quality is a disgrace again never buying a ruger


The Ruger RPR in 6.5 Prc is the most accurate rifle I own. Check out my Instagram post for accuracy results. The load I worked up yields 0.134 groups at 100 yards 3 shot group. 147gr Eld Match,Retumbo powder, WLR primer, Hornady cases. Sean you must have got a lemon. This is my first Ruger rifle besides my 10/22 and mini 14.


The Tikka approach is the more common approach of using a chassis style system that attaches to the traditional T3x action, versus the Ruger using an actual new “upper” as the action. I personally prefer the Tikka method, but there are valid arguments going both directions.


New site user, and just wanted to say thank you for all the thorough and well-thought out information you provide. Everything has been a great read! Now for my question…

Since this is a MSR, and you mentioned the buttstock/pistol grip can be interchanged with other AR 10/15 parts, I was wondering what other “basic” modifications you would recommend. Buffer spring or bolt head? Would a drop-in Geissele trigger work (or recommended)?

Thanks again!


Thanks for the kind comments about sniper central, we appreciate them.

In regards to your question. Since these are a bolt action rifle made to be similar to the MSR, they do not share all the parts. For instance, there is no buffer spring because it is a bolt action. But there are many parts that will work. Buttstock, pistol grip, forearms, etc. These can all be swapped with MSR parts.


I recently purchased a Savage 10 BA Stealth in 6.5 Creedmore. let’s just say you better give that a try.
Amazing tack driver!!!

Dana L Crouch

I have a RPR in the 6.5 Creedmore and a Savage 110BA Stealth in .300 Win.Mag. At the moment the longest range I have access to is 500 yards. The RPR shoot’s .265 to .447 m.o.a. all day long at 500 with my average shooting skills. The Stealth shoots .433 to.607 m.o.a. at the same range with me behind the scope. I have a feeling that the difference is more the round than the rifle. There are things I like about both rifles and if they were chambered the same I suspect they would be extremely close to each other in accuracy. I personally slightly prefer the RPR for the folding stock and long keymod free floated forend. I wish I could put a Savage bolt action in the RPR it would be perfect then. At least for me.


Confused….is the bolt rotation 60* or 70*?? Is it a difference from GE1 to GEN2?? Every bolt gun I’ve shot has play in travel and noticeable roughness in non contact surfaces, I’ve no experience with full custom builds, money for nothin??? What can be done to eliminate these obvious defects?? None the less the RPR has the approval of so many that the gun is back ordered. Give a full review of a full custom build as a comparison perhaps to inform, me, the layman of what my money isn’t buying me.

Jeff O’Byrne

A late comment: Ruger makes several M16 look alikes. The Precision Rifle is not one of them. Rather it emulates the Tubb 2000 which was designed for NRA high power competition. The key feature was to run the bolt under the cheek piece so that the head didn’t have to move while the bolt is cycled. Your good score on the 300 rapid test attests to the satisfaction of this requirement.


Hello all, This may sound odd, but having just gotten my RPR on the 4th, a couple of observations, the mag will release/remove with the bolt closed on my rifle, and the bolt not closing on an empty mag is only with a P-Mag, with the AI-Pattern mag it does close with no issues that I can see, so single feeding should be fine looks like to me. I have not fired it yet, but looking forward to it.
Merry Christmas to ALL

Douglas Crumrine

Not sure if this has been asked. Has Sniper Central considered offering the RPR in the Custom Rifle Packages? With your expertise and all the modifications that are available, building one like the others you offer, would be a hot seller. I would buy one from you if I could purchase the rifle and have access to all the modifications available at one locations, like you do with the Remington.



Doug, thank you for the suggestion and recommendation. We have thought of that, but were not sure how much demand there would be. Sounds like it may be worth it! We’ll see if we can get one going asap. If you could send me an email with all of the options you would be interested in, that could help us get started


Can anyone explain why my new RPR Creedmoor 6.5 bolt is fully blued and not bright steel like I’m seeing here??


if I had to guess, it is not stainless and it could have been prone to corrosion. So they coat it to protect. Else… its just more tactical


The new bolt is nitride coated and there is an ambi safety for the new “gen 3”. The RPR also got mlok and lost keymod

Loren Rogers

I picked up that very model yesterday. Next step, optics. I enjoyed your review, thank you.


I have owned the RPR Gen2 for over a year now and have found the bolt now slides smoother with extended use. With proper lubrication it also helps out. Like one of the commenters said using AI style mags will allow you to single feed and close the bolt with an empty mag. The Magpul mag floor plate has a raised hump that stops the bolt from going forward when empty. I called Magpul and asked about it and did not get a good answer. I use Accurate Mag and have no issues with them. If you are shooting a .308 that accepts AI style mags it works for that as well. I recently had the opportunity to shoot the gun out to a mile. We went from 785 yds., 1080 yds., 1285 yds. and then 1760 yds. The RPR had no problems at a mile. We were not shooting for groups but hits, I mile target 2 times in a row. There were also 3 other RPR shooters all having no problem at a mile. We were all shooting the 140 gr. ELD-M, my load was
2766 FPS using R17, one other shooter was at 2746
fps. As one commenter noted the bolt has some side to side play, every factory bolt gun I own and have shot does also. Rem 700’s are worse in my opinion. If you want tighter tolerances you will need to have a gun built or have your bolt and receiver accurized. Love my RPR, shoots in the .2’s when I’m on and always below 1/2 moa on a bad day at 100 yds. Sorry to bore everyone, shoot well-live well.


I’m so glad I found this site, and thanks for the well written test report. I bought a Q-Ford scope at auction last weekend for 1/2 price and have been trying to come to terms with what I want in a rifle and caliber. This site has settled it for me. It will be the RPR in 6.5 C. Thanks to all who have left comments, too.

Eric B.

I have a Gen. 1 RPR so added a Little Bastard brake which works surprisingly well.
1. Little Bastard brake
2. MAGPUL Modular pistol grip
3. Anarchy Outdoors bolt shroud W/ bolt wrench
4. Atlas bipod
5. CTK monopod
6. Anarchy Outdoors forearm lace-on padding
7. Anarchy Outdoors magazine release extension

Using Hornady match ammo (140 gr. ELD-M) I get identical results as reported here.

SCOPE: Bushnell ERS 3.5 – 21 x 50 (34 mm main tube) mil/mil turrets & H59 “Christmas tree” reticle.

With this mid-priced rifle and mid-priced scope I am able to compete on an equal accuracy footing with shooters using much more expensive rifles and scopes. Love it!


I have fired a little less than 100 round through my RPR in 6 mm Creedmoor. I bought 5 boxes of Hornady ELD match for break in and mainly brass for reloading. I am amazed at how accurate this rifle is with factory ammo!
Consistent .3-.4″ at 100. I’ve been able to get this level of accuracy out of production rifles in the past after floating the barrel, bedding, trigger job and extensive load development. Never just purchase rifle and ammo and shoot tiny groups. Hats off to Ruger and Hornady!


Wrestling with long range purchases. RGR gen 3 or Howa KRG Bravo in 6.5 Creedmoor
along with best scope in the $1k range. I’m a newbie and a friend shoots comp. I would
like to get up to par as he has the RGR Gen 1 and a Burris XTR II 8-40×50.


Both of those rifles are going to shoot well so it comes down to which one you like best. You have to like the rifle, the way it looks, the way it feels, etc in order for you to shoot well. The 6.5 CM is a good cartridge and combined with the rifle and scope you should do well. Let us know if you would like us to quote you a price on a complete package, might be able to save you some money.


the RPR rifle 223 what magazines does it take ? does it take magpul p mags? 10x 20x 30 rounders? looking for a more than 10 x round for this thanks


Brand new to long range shooting but interested in seeing general opinion. I’ve been told the Ruger American Predator in 6.5 creedmoor is the best long range gun for a low budget and the RPR is probably the best option for a mid-grade long range rifle. I am debating between the RPR in .308 ( I have a tikka t3 in .308 and love it) and the Ruger Predator in 6.5. Is the RPR worth the extra costs. I’ve watched many videos of the Predator hitting targets 1,000 yds out. What’s the major benefit of paying the extra money for the RPR?

I’ve thought about picking up the Predator and an M&P 15-22 for same costs of RPR.


The term “best” is always difficult because there are lots and different priorities for lots of different shooters. The predator (which we also have a review of here) will get the job done, but the recoil is more stiff, the stock is very cheap and not very comfortable, and it is just a basic no frills rifle. But its accurate enough and will get you hitting targets at long range. The RPR has a chassis style design with some interchangeable parts with MSR rifles, the recoil is less, the quality is higher and with the adjustable parts and pieces it allows for a better personalize fit. But accuracy is not a lot better than the predator. So it depends on what your priorities are. Do feel free to ask many more questions, that is why we are here!


They are very different in terms of their stocks and configurations. The Magpul stock is not as nice as the RPR setup, but some people do not like the look or feel of the RPR, and others do not like the look and plastic feel of the 700 Magpul. The performance on both rifles is good and very comparable to each other.

Robert Jardinico

RPR now available in 300 Win Mag…. having grown up around a bolt action Weatherby in the same caliber, but now using MSR’s, I’m very seriously considering the purchase of one of these in the 300WM. Anyone have experience with this yet?


Fantastic report, thank you for clearing much of the fog for me. I’ve used an HK91 for ~30+ yrs. and now I’m seriously looking at the RPR line. I’m very new to long range (300+ yd) shooting, with a limited budget. Will the RPR .308 shoot 7.62 NATO rounds like my HK, or is that just a bad idea?

Who Me

Just starting to look into long range shooting. My son is a dual citizen and the other country has a compulsory lottery for military service. So, should he decide to retain citizenship, he’ll have to participate in the lottery. And, should he end up having to serve, I want him to have this skill so that he, hopefully, won’t end up in some front line unit. Yes, they have occasional skirmishes with a neighbor.

So far, I’ve looked at the RPR (.308 Win) and the Surgeon Rifles CSR. Whatever I end up getting, I’d like it to be fun for the whole family to shoot. But I’m having a problem seeing how the CSR could possibly be worth $3700 (list) more than the RPR. Anyway, just wondering what other recommendations others would make.


First, do keep in mind if your son is conscripted into service and he is an accomplished long range shooter and becomes a sniper…he has just entered into a job more dangerous than a front line infantrymen. Just so you know.

The RPR is a mass produced rifle and a pretty good one, but it will not compare to the custom built Surgeon rifle in terms of fit, finish, customization and even accuracy. That is what you get for all the extra money with a custom built rifle. They are spendy, but they are worth it provided you have the money to spend.


Who Me

Thanks for the reply. The military seems to deal with occasional border incursions from one neighbor and internal terrorist activity… though they may not classify it as terrorism. So I’ll hope, in this case, that it’s not more dangerous. Anyway, my son’s just about to turn 13 so he has plenty of time to both get proficient and decide whether he will renounce citizenship there. But you have to be a citizen to own real property. Not sure which way he’ll go.

As far as paying for it, well, I’ll be selling one toy (99 Mustang Cobra Convertible with 35k miles) to buy the other. The 308 isn’t really the toy I’d prefer. I had my eye on the 338 Lapua but, as much as I want him to shoot it, I can run a whole lot more 308 through it.

I was also thinking about running it with a suppressor but it seems like that would shorten the barrel life. Need to look into that some more to see how much of an effect it has.


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